Reclaim You- Surviving Toxic Workplaces

Season 1: Episode 17- Surviving Workplace Toxicity with Casey

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Workplace toxicity isn't just a buzzword—it's a real issue that countless individuals grapple with.

In this episode of the "Reclaim You" podcast, hosts Sarah and Casey tackle the topic head-on, sharing their experiences and insights that resonate with anyone who has faced the challenges of a toxic work environment. From isolation-induced introspection to setting boundaries, their conversation is a treasure trove of relatable wisdom that can help us navigate even the most toxic work settings.

The episode begins by addressing the unique struggles that emerged as a result of remote work during the pandemic. The hosts candidly discuss the isolation that often accompanies working from home for extended periods. Their empathetic acknowledgment of this struggle serves as a reminder that feeling alone in your home office doesn't mean you're truly alone in your feelings.

The experience of remote work prompted a collective shift from bustling office life to the confines of our own homes. Casey emphasizes that this shift is significant—it's more than just a change of scenery. It's a shift that impacts our emotional landscape and triggers a range of emotions, including isolation and, at times, loneliness.

The crucial takeaway?

Feeling isolated is a shared experience, not an isolated one.

One of the most striking moments of the episode is when Sarah reflects on the personal growth that can arise from solitude. She describes how being alone with your thoughts can lead to a deeper understanding of different aspects of yourself. While acknowledging that not everyone might want to take their work-from-home experience as an opportunity for deep self-exploration, Sarah's words remind us that even amidst the challenges, there's potential for growth.

As the conversation flows, the hosts address the alarming rise in depression and anxiety during the pandemic. They normalize these emotional responses as natural reactions to extraordinary circumstances. It's a compassionate reminder that feeling overwhelmed or anxious isn't a sign of personal failure—it's a human response to a global crisis. Casey empathizes with everyone who faced these challenges..

A critical point in the conversation revolves around setting boundaries—a practice that's crucial for maintaining our well-being, especially in toxic work environments. Casey encourages listeners not to be martyrs or crusaders, but instead advocates for themselves by setting healthy limits. Sarah's agreement resonates deeply, affirming that taking on more than we can handle isn't a path to success—it's a recipe for burnout.

Casey thoughtfully addresses the common tendency to feel solely responsible for tasks, especially when others seem unwilling. She dismantles this notion, asserting that if you're the only one taking on a certain responsibility, it's not solely your problem to solve. Sarah beautifully expands on this, noting that this dynamic can often stem from family histories or personal experiences. Recognizing these patterns is essential for establishing healthier boundaries.

The hosts draw attention to the illusion of the "hustle," a phenomenon that pressures individuals to constantly achieve more. Casey explores into the underpinnings of this mindset, touching on scarcity, fear of missing out, and comparison. It's an honest exploration of the factors that drive us to keep pushing ourselves, even when it's detrimental to our well-being. Sarah's reminder that "we're not our jobs" hits home, urging us to disconnect our self-worth from our professional achievements.

In the concluding segment, the hosts circle back to the central message: thriving amidst challenges.

They encourage listeners to embrace authenticity and prioritize self-care, using their candid discussion as a blueprint for navigating workplace toxicity. The conversation encapsulates the essence of the podcast—inspiring us to reclaim our sense of self, even in environments that may try to diminish it.

By embracing self-care strategies, setting boundaries, and embracing our authentic selves, we can forge a path of resilience and well-being even in the face of a toxic work environment. Sarah and Casey's wisdom resonates long after the episode ends, reminding us that our mental health is an invaluable asset that deserves the utmost care and attention.

To learn more about Reclaim Therapy and how to work with a therapist on the team, head to www.reclaimtherapy.org.

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  • [00:01] Sarah: Hi there. Welcome to Reclaim You, a podcast published by the Reclaim Therapy team. Join us as we share stories, tools, and insights on how to reclaim you in the wake of trauma, disordered eating, and body shame. Grab your coffee, tea, or your favorite snack and get cozy because we're about to dive in. Welcome back to reclaim you we're back with more workplace toxicity.

    [00:23] Casey: Hello.

    [00:25] Sarah: How are you?

    [00:27] Casey: I'm good. How about yourself?

    [00:30] Sarah: I'm doing well. I'm excited to answer some of the questions that we got on Instagram about navigating workplace toxicity in other environments other than the social work field. Social work profession. What did you think after our last podcast?

    [00:48] Casey: I might have had a nightmare or two from back in the day.

    [00:53] Sarah: Made it all really raw and fresh.

    [00:56] Casey: Yeah, but I think it's gratitude. It's also, I think, recognizing the resilience it takes to get through those moments. Right. I mean, that really was the take home for me in that is like we can say, oh, my God, that time was so ******, or that job was awful or whatever. But if you help somebody along the way, which we all have, whether it's a coworker or a customer, client, patient, whatever you use, and you are somehow able to take care of yourself through it all, even if that's just surviving, then you're badass.

    [01:41] Sarah: You are badass.

    [01:42] Casey: Take that with you. You're badass.

    [01:45] Sarah: I love it. All right, let's get into this. Are you ready for the first question?

    [01:50] Casey: I'm ready for it. Bring it on.

    [01:52] Sarah: All right. First question is how to navigate when the higher ups are not listening and just making things worse. I think we can all relate to that.

    [02:04] Casey: What a common issue?

    [02:05] Sarah: Yeah, it's so toxic. So common and so toxic.

    [02:09] Casey: Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking like anyone I've ever come across in life who is a working person has said something along the lines of management this and management that. And there's so much separation between higher ups and people at the bottom. I think part of it is understanding why that might be happening. Right. And I think a lot, you know, this question in particular, you get real and maybe not real exciting or real happy, but understanding things are a business. Right. And the bottom line is money, which means either clients served, customers paying for things, amount of contracts, and then a lot of people who are the higher ups have higher ups above them. Right. So recognizing that the people you see on a day to day basis might not actually be making the decisions. And number two, what is the goal? If the goal is to take care of employees, great. But most of the time, it's not, right. The goal is to make money the quickest way, the fastest way, the most efficient way. And that's just it. And whether you're talking about social work or you're talking about accounting or you're talking about a product that's the bottom line. So I think accepting the harsh reality that people making decisions that aren't helpful for you is because you're probably not the most important part of the business.

    [03:59] Sarah: Yeah.

    [03:59] Casey: And that's awful. I'm not saying that's right.

    [04:02] Sarah: Right. Yeah. That's a blow, and I think we all know it. Right? Yeah. You serve the business, you probably make the business a certain amount of money, which is really what they care about.

    [04:14] Casey: Exactly. Right. And you get money for your time served. I think that's important to remember, everybody. Money for time served. Time spent. Not extra, not outside of your business hours. When people are making decisions, I guess it depends on what the decision is. Right. Or choices are. If there are things that are harming the business, unless you have a stake in the business, I think the healthiest thing to do is realize that that is not your responsibility. I'm sure you have a better way of doing that or taking care of that, whatever, if it's making your job harder. Number one, have we done anything to share that with someone? Is that safe for you to do? Number two, have you talked to colleagues about it, your coworkers? Is that something that they're seeing that can give you some validation that you're not the only one seeing it? And then if you've done all you can, you have some camaraderie, I think coming to the place of acceptance that that might be the way things are for a while. And how are you going to take care of yourself throughout it? Are you going to commiserate with your coworkers? Are you going to have boundaries around your work hours? Or when you're available, how often you check your email? All of those things, I think, is important. And to a certain extent, I've had jobs where I've had to tell myself it's a means to an end. Right. Is this going to give me experience, something good on my resume? Is it going to give me the money I need to do something in my personal life? Looking at a job as being a means to an end is sometimes a good survival strategy. Do you want that to be forever? Do I encourage that as a therapist? Absolutely not. Right. I want you to have some stake in that. But I think at the same time, if it's something that you don't have an option, looking at that as a stepping stone.

    [06:26] Sarah: Absolutely. I think it's so frustrating when workplaces, they have, like, a comment box of, like, how can we make this place better? Right? The CEO, CFO, COO, all of the OOS, EOS, whatever, are going to reflect on this and make a better culture. Right. So everyone fills out the comment box, and there's this spark of hope that things are going to change. And then you wait, and you wait, and you wait, and you wait, and nothing changes. There's another blow of, like, am I even being heard? Am I being listened to? Do they care about me? Do they care about the culture? And maybe they care, and maybe they don't have the bandwidth or the energy to actually do something about that care. And they also may not care.

    [07:09] Casey: Right.

    [07:10] Sarah: Yeah. Or see that there's a problem because they're so focused on profitability. How are we going to make the next whatever growth, whatever it is that your workplace is primed to do that could be the focus of those higher ups. Which sucks.

    [07:28] Casey: It absolutely sucks. It's so funny that we're talking about this right now because my husband and I are watching Superstore, if you've ever heard of that show, has America for Error in it.

    [07:41] Sarah: Yeah, it's okay. Now I know which one you're talking.

    [07:43] Casey: So, you know, it's based off of that Superstore that we won't mention and all of the things that we're talking about right now. So, like comment boxes and those corny things that higher ups try to encourage, like competitions between different stores and different things to build camaraderie, and realizing that it doesn't actually accomplish anything. It's more an illusion to keep people involved and keep people in this place. Right. And capitalism, that's the point. The point is to keep the worker working, to keep you always running to the next best thing, always wanting more, so you achieve more, but not actually considering what it takes to get there and how much your body goes through and your mind goes through. And they make light of it in that show. But maybe if you're feeling a certain way, I watch Superstore get a little laugh or two, feel seen a little bit, feel seen a little bit, make light of the situation. But also realizing that though you may work in a certain environment, we live within the large umbrella of capitalism. Right. And that is what dictates all of these societal pressures and environments within workplaces that create the illusion of something when the reality is that you are struggling. So making sure that your job is not your means of identity, to make sure that your job is not a means of worth, and you can get tripped up in that, whether you like your job, hate your job, whatever. Right. But making sure that you separate yourself, especially if you're not happy, you have pockets of time within your life where you can be. And then taking that opportunity, I think, is really important.

    [10:12] Sarah: Yeah. And experiencing that opportunity. Absolutely. How are you taking care of yourself through that struggle? And how much energy do you have to put into a lot of people try to change the culture. Right. They're on a crusade. I did this in my days in an agency of like, how am I going to change this culture? That doesn't have to be your responsibility. Doesn't have to be. Do you have the energy for it? Is it going to burn you out? Even more? Is it going to frustrate you more? Does it feel like you're spinning your wheels? How are you going to take care of yourself? Through not being heard, not being seen, not being valued? Because that can trigger a lot of stuff from earlier in our lives for some people.

    [10:54] Casey: So a therapist, keeping up with your friends and sharing what's going on, right. To tie this into therapeutic modalities, I guess you could say, is healing doesn't always come from the source in which you need the healing from. Right. So if you're not feeling heard at work, you have people in your life who will hear you. Right. And if you don't right now, we do, like, shout out to us, reach out to us on Instagram, say, hey, we hear you, and we see you, and remembering that that is healing in and of itself, and that carries you to the next place in your life.

    [11:41] Sarah: Totally.

    [11:42] Casey: So if you're not feeling heard or seen at your work, I'm sorry, but know that it doesn't stop there. Right. Like, that's what makes us human, is that we have or have the ability to reach out to different areas of our life and get support. Take care of yourself, folks.

    [12:02] Sarah: Preach. All right, next question coming at you. How remote work can be toxic in its isolation? I love this question because I feel like sorry. It got all jazzed up.

    [12:17] Casey: Oh, my gosh. Go for it, girl.

    [12:19] Sarah: Yeah. No, I just feel like when I went from working in, like, an office type agency setting to working as a worker, be out in the community again, right. I was in the community, and then I was in kind of like a space, and then I was back in the community. I experienced this so hard, and it was so difficult to be with myself all the time, with my thoughts, with just me. Without someone to talk to, everyone else was working. It was so difficult. I found it to be one of the most challenging times of my life, actually, where I was just, like, with everything, with the feels, there wasn't distraction or numbing. It was just all me.

    [12:57] Casey: Yes.

    [12:59] Sarah: So I love this question because I'm like, yes, I get that. And of course, now we work from home for a lot of our days, too, so we totally get that, too. What are your thoughts after that rant? Ramble?

    [13:10] Casey: No, I love the rant. I love it because I think you're speaking to something that we've both experienced before the pandemic and before private practice, where we were out in the community on our own, and it was kind of remote. Car was our office, car was the dining room table, car was the office and the desk. And having to be with yourself, traveling and being with people and sitting and doing paperwork, it's a very lonely time. And I guess I was a late bloomer in realizing that that was lonely because I just dissociated all the time, I think, really realizing that it was probably the time in my life where I dissociated the most. And looking back, I was like, oh, that makes a whole lot of sense. There was nowhere to put all that stuff. And even just being in the confines of your car. I was so sick of my car at one point, I just didn't want to drive.

    [14:27] Sarah: Yeah.

    [14:28] Casey: Don't even want to look at it. Don't want to look at it. No. And not even knowing what to expect when you get into people's homes. And there was just so much going on. So I love that you talked about that because I think maybe that gives us a different perspective of remote work, too, and that we've had these years of experience where we know what not to do, we know what is not helpful, and having other opportunities that we can take to make that better. Right. I think we know a lot of the recommendations. Right. It's like making sure that you have a space where you can take care of yourself and all of these things that you can do internally. But how do you deal with the isolation? Get out.

    [15:20] Sarah: Yeah.

    [15:21] Casey: Get out. When you right. Like, it's so easy for me after work to just like, I'm just going to watch YouTube or fiddle around in here. But it's not helpful. No, it doesn't know. Being able to have something to look forward to.

    [15:40] Sarah: Planting pockets of play into your day.

    [15:43] Casey: It's of play. Yes.

    [15:44] Sarah: And guarding them quite fiercely, actually.

    [15:49] Casey: Fiercely. I love that. Fiercely. Yes. I go out at lunchtime or somewhere around there when I can and go to my garden and pick my stuff and trim and all of that. Or even to go and check the mail. I know that sounds really silly, but going out and realizing that you are a part of a bigger world.

    [16:13] Sarah: Right.

    [16:14] Casey: Our brain really forgets quite quickly. If you think about how a lot of isolation can cause depression, it's because that idea of feeling isolated can be so quick for human beings. Because naturally we need socialization. That's just a part of our needs. So I think number one for me is realizing that your need for socialization is a need, not a want, not a luxury. Whether that's the wawa cashier. That's the example I always use.

    [16:46] Sarah: Yeah.

    [16:47] Casey: I talk up the wawa cashier whether they like it or not. I'm sure they don't, really, regardless of which one it is, doesn't matter. But people watching or looking at the sky and realizing that's the sky that everyone else sees. Just something quick like that, or something as detailed as I hung out with Amanda on Friday night via Zoom, one of our dietitians, for a couple of hours just to talk and shoot the ****. And that felt good, to be able to connect with somebody. Having a text thread doesn't have to be work related. Like, you can just be a human, totally making sure work isn't prioritized over the rest of your life.

    [17:32] Sarah: And I think the boundaries around work time feel so important when you're working remotely because it can be so easy to reenter the space of work when you think of something like, oh, I forgot to respond to that email. Let me just run up to my computer and do it. Or oh, I have to finish up that thing I'll run up after bedtime, or when my partner is watching TV, whatever it is, and get that thing done. It can be so much easier to be pulled towards work when work is from home. So really creating this boundary and orb around your workspace, and that's when you work. Otherwise you get to hold that boundary and back off and let it just be. Because work is always going to be there. Similarly to when you're in an office space, work is always going to be there. There's always going to be something to do. There's always going to be something that's going to be left over from the day before, the week before, the month before, even. It will always be there. You can always return to it. And your life outside of work matters so much more. Like, yes, again, the means to an end. Work is a means to an end. It helps you make money so that you can live the life the way that you want to live. It fabulous. You are so much bigger than that.

    [18:46] Casey: I love that. Yes, the boundaries and thinking about why they're placed there. Yes, you can see that we are therapists, and obviously we talk about boundaries a lot, but there's a reason why they're there, right? It's not just a recommendation that's like, here, it's good for you, right? Like, I'm going to give you a description of the quote unquote medicine I'm about to give you because boundaries are a way that we separate parts of our lives. Whether it's I'm setting a boundary with a person because of my boundary to myself, or is it boundary for work because I want to give time or energy to another place in my life. If you don't have boundaries, it's a very confused sense of self, too. And that's when we get into the place of I only identify as a worker bee and all of that stuff. I think also recognizing that it will always be there and thinking about is that bringing up things for us, right? Is that bringing up anxiety? Is that bringing up, you know, does that mean something if I always have something left? And it's like, yeah, it's human. And it's because we live in a society that has way too high of expectations of what we should be accomplishing. So rest assured, perfectly normal in case anybody absolutely.

    [20:14] Sarah: And I really think that time in my life when it was so hard to just be by myself all the time. It helped me really get to know the different parts of myself. And I'm not saying that everyone should take working from home as an opportunity to go, like, deep and to go there and to get to know yourself, but it can be a door cracking open to understand why certain parts of you function the way that they do and hopefully making the space to get some support around that. If you so choose to be curious and want to know more about why you operate the way that you operate, because it's all there for a purpose, for the greater good.

    [20:51] Casey: Yes. And if you're noticing that we saw an influx of depression, anxiety during the pandemic, and that's normal, like recognizing that that is par for the course, yes, I'm going to say that. And if you are struggling, reach out for help. Recognizing that anxiety or depression surfacing or getting worse is understandable, but not something that you should just be tolerating that you have to just tolerate looking at your employers support services that they offer or reaching out to us. Or whatever, making sure that you realize that if you don't have somebody in your life that you feel safe to share that with, that there are options for you to do that.

    [21:49] Sarah: We know how debilitating isolation and loneliness can be. We get it. All right. The conversation around boundaries reminded me of our next question. It's not the next one, but I'm going to skip r1 quick because it feels related. Feeling like you can't set boundaries around time spent working because you're the only one willing to do so or ready to do so.

    [22:11] Casey: Maybe let's not be a martyr. Let's not be a crusader. I say that with all the love and compassion in my heart, though. How many of us have fallen for this? Oh, yeah, a lot. Especially empaths, right.

    [22:27] Sarah: Highly sensitive, represent.

    [22:29] Casey: Yes. I want to heal the suffering. I want to do what I can. But let's take apart that question for a minute. Right. Struggling with boundaries within the work because you're the only one willing to do it, that's a problem. Right. If you're the only one willing to do something and realizing that that problem is not yours now, if your work is contingent on those other things being done, then maybe energy served. Trying to figure out how that can be fixed rather than putting it on yourself would be helpful. That's a point of advocating for yourself, because if you're doing double the work and not getting paid double the pay, that's double a problem, in my opinion.

    [23:22] Sarah: Totally.

    [23:23] Casey: But if that's an illusion of that I'm the only person willing to do it, is it that other people aren't doing it fast enough or they're not doing it in a way that serves you best? Right? Like checking in with yourself, maybe what parts of you are coming up and how they're coming up in your workplace and can you have that time to commiserate and communicate with the people that you work with? It's hard to work with nobody, and it's hard to work with somebody. There's never a win. There's always going to be a struggle because you're human. That's all right. And the parts of you that come up in work are different than the parts that come up in other places. And checking in with that. And again, you said, Sarah, it's not about digging too deep, but it's like, what am I telling myself? And what is the narrative that comes through with this idea that I can't set boundaries because I'm the only one? Yeah. Are we having some struggles with control and feeling like we need to control the narrative and control the process? Is it that we feel like we can't speak up, that we just have to do and just take it? Both of those are important to pay attention to. Maybe it's checking in with a colleague, if you can, to say, like, hey, this is what I'm struggling with. Have you struggled with this before? And how have you dealt with that, realizing that there's someone that's probably dealt with this challenge before you and really using the people before us and the mentorship before us to get to a place of understanding?

    [25:13] Sarah: Absolutely. It is a hard one. And I'm just thinking about family dynamics because I think a lot of times, especially small agencies, maybe not big corporations, but dynamics can be played out from the top right. That are part of people's history that then trickle down into relationships in the workplace, all of those things. And the same thing for us. When we're feeling like we have to be the one to change the culture or save the colleagues or whatever it is, it's interesting to get really curious about how has that shown up otherwise in your life. Right. Were you responsible for people's feelings or did you feel responsible for people's feelings as a young person in the world? Just an opportunity to get a little curious about, all right, I felt this way before. Maybe this doesn't have to be my responsibility this time. Maybe I can set boundaries just for me and not the greater community. Sometimes you will. That's fine too. But lots of times, if you can do it for yourself, it's all about you. We want you to feel better.

    [26:18] Casey: Yes. We're going deep. Right? I'm thinking about perfectionism. I'm thinking about nervous system response, but also family dynamics and how are the things that no longer serve you today have served you in the past. Right. The idea of being the martyr or the person that fixes that might have made you feel safe back then. Right. And maybe to a point doing the thing you do at work makes you feel safe because we haven't another idea. Yeah. Valued. And so I think when we look at things especially if we're not having the support of a therapist or something like that, is to start off really small, like harm reduction. Can you leave that one project until tomorrow with a plan of how you're going to take care of yourself that night and just entertain it? Right? It's an opportunity missed if we don't, but realizing you can always go back and do what you were doing before. But have we ever experienced what it's like to take ownership of that part of our lives? Maybe not. And is it safe to do that in your specific workplace, too? I think that's a big problem, and it needs to kind of be in the forefront, too, is like, some of these toxic workplaces are extremely toxic, and your employment is on a thin ice every single day. Those are the times where maybe this is not the time to be doing that. And maybe we're looking at crisis intervention of, like, how are you taking care of yourself? Are you sleeping? Are you eating? All of those things but good? I love this conversation. It can always get deep.

    [28:11] Sarah: We can always go there. All right, last question. Getting caught up in the hustle and this feels kind of similar getting caught up in the hustle of doing more and achieving more **** is a hustle. It's a hustle.

    [28:32] Casey: I mean, there's so much that comes up with that one question, right?

    [28:38] Sarah: Oh, yeah.

    [28:39] Casey: Scarcity mindset, value, self worth. Fear of a lot of things. Fear of not being good enough. Fear of missing out, you know, big FOMO coming through comparison. You know, a lot of things that can drown you, I think, really paying attention to what drives that, what drives that need to keep going. Is it the culture, right? We talk about this in regards to our food and body folks, right? It's like always that push to do more and to do better, quote unquote. And what does that achieve for you? A sense of self, a sense of value, a sense of worth? Is it helping you distract yourself from another part of your life that isn't making you happy? Is that the one successful thing with a lot of the other places in your life that you're struggling? I think it's really easy because you go on social media or you talk to people in your life and they're doing something cool or better, they got more money or this or that or whatever. It's natural to feel something about that, but it's how are we separating feeling from acting? I think that's what's helped me the most, is, like, being able to realize that I can tolerate feeling not good enough. And I can soothe that in my life by recognizing that whatever I am here is enough. Where did I learn that I had to do something for that? And realizing how much I've been through in my life, but realizing for everyone else how much you've been through in your life. And jeez, like, we were talking about being badass before. One more bonus or one more, this is not going to change how badass you are.

    [30:51] Sarah: Right.

    [30:53] Casey: It just is. And thinking about what that means, like what the Hustle is representing is that more money? Is that more hours worked or status, right. How hard you're working? Who told you need to do that? Somebody did. Pay attention to that.

    [31:14] Sarah: Totally.

    [31:14] Casey: Do they run your life anymore? Do they have to run your life? It's nonlinear, though. We're all suckers to that every once in a while.

    [31:21] Sarah: Oh, yeah, totally. Can get hooked in real easy.

    [31:24] Casey: Yeah. Just have your life jacket, right? If you get in, what are the things that help you get out? Is it going back to your values? I have some postits on my wall in front of me, and one is I'm not my job because I need to remember that especially for people who are happy in their jobs and they feel a lot of value, that that can also be a dangerous place to be.

    [31:53] Sarah: Yeah. When you actually deeply love what you.

    [31:56] Casey: Do, it's just as slippery as a slope. Slippery slope as anything else. And I have these quotes here to remind me of those when I get in those places. And my husband reminded me, get out of your office and let's go do something this weekend, or whatever, remembering, oh, my gosh, I'm so much more than that. So I think to pose for this question is who are you outside of your job? And maybe thinking about how to represent that in your life, is it through people? Is it through a post? It is it through time you spend with yourself? But going back to your values and authenticity, which we've talked about on the podcast, it's like, who are you? Because you're not that job. Just like you're not that number on the scale and you're not all the ****** things that have happened to you in your life. You get to choose who you are. And I think that's important to remember.

    [32:58] Sarah: Beautifully put.

    [32:59] Casey: Good questions, though.

    [33:01] Sarah: I know. Great questions. Great questions. Any other thoughts about workplace toxicity as we wrap it up?

    [33:07] Casey: It's hard. I think it's remember who you are in all of the chaos, always.

    [33:15] Sarah: All right, everyone, let us know your thoughts. If this was helpful, if you have more questions on workplace toxicity, we could always talk more. We certainly don't have, but we always can. So let us know your thoughts, any other comments, anything really? We're happy to hear them and we hope that you have a good rest of your week and we will talk to you next time. Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of Reclaim You. Be sure to, like, comment and subscribe and check us out on YouTube at Reclaim You. If you're looking to start therapy for trauma disordered eating or body. Image concerns. Head over to our website at www.reclaimtherapy.org to learn more about us and our work. We'll be back next week with another episode. Until then, take good care of yourself.


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